Guest Speaker: On Beauty

Comparisons
Sins - what not to do (Ideal being blamed by the not ideal)
Snow - purity
They - beautiful
We - ugly people
Wound - beautiful

They are the damned, the beautiful know this.
- Is there a contradiction here too?

Is the poem suggesting there is no way to just draw a line between beautiful and ugly.
Possible reason for why the pronouns are never fully explained.
Non-specificity in fact brings out this theme.

On Friday discussed idea of "living my life for my husband" (pg 206-7 Fight with Howard)
A) Living FOR someone
B) Living WITH someone

Kiki thought she was living with Howard, but after talking to Carlene and learning of Howard's infidelity she realizes she was living for him.

Constant role reversal and contradiction -- characters seem to think or say they stand for something, yet really they stand for something ese entirely, even the opposite of what thy originally said.

Dichotomy of what is ideal!

Forster - Howard's End
-Victorian England
-propriety
-anything abnormal is wrong
+two conflicting families. One has a father who controls rules his family strictly (Kipps family). The other family is just two women and they live alone and challenge the status quo (Howard's family). Plot if very similar in the nature of hte conflicts that arise (But it doesn't bring in urban or racial tensions obviously).
-End is very different. Honestly I have no idea whathe is saying. Lots of conflict but in the end it is resolved to the point that they are living together happily, defying Victorian notions.

As we approach the end of the novel, how do the families end up? Are they happy together? Do they uphold societal norms? What should these families be doing?

Voice - what kind of voice? How does one have subjectivity? Power?
+broader themes of identity and representation.

Carl and the others are powerless against the ideas of the university. How do they form notions of themselves.